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AS
I UNDERSTAND IT, THE REASON FOR YOUR SIDESTEPPING MUSIC FOR THE PAST
FEW YEARS IS THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE TEAM RESPONSIBLE FOR INVENTING
THE POLYPHONIC RINGTONE?
Well yeah, the way it came about was that Beatnik, the tech company
I formed, built this very compact synthesiser and we built it really
for downloading over modems on the web, in the mid-nineties, and Nokia
who really created the ringtone - the monophonic beepy ringtone - saw
phones coming out of Asia that had dedicated audio chips in them made
by Yamaha and people like that which were playing polyphonic ringtones,
but they took a lot of power and cost several dollars per unit. Nokia
looked around for a synthesiser that was small enough and efficient
enough to fit inside their standard phone. They came to Beatnik because
they wanted to see out synthesiser and see if they could work with it
and what we ended up with was a version of the synthesiser which could
use samples, and in about '99 they started to ship them in their phones.
Then there was sort of upgrade path we worked out with them where we
added more voices and then eventually samples of real instruments aka
trutones...
Basically
I shifted Beatnik's attention right away from the internet and into
cellphones and we became the pre-eminent company in that space and now
over half the world's cellphones have Beatnik chips in them!
WHICH
MUST BE A PHENOMENAL FEELING FOR YOU...
Well, you know... I'm very proud that the time I spent in the tech world
eventually paid off - and it was a hard road - but I feel somewhat vindicated
because I never wanted to take that long away from music! It was meant
to be a couple of years and what with one thing and another it ended
up being twelve years or something, but the fact that the outcome was
good and that it has enabled me to go back to music for the love of
it is a very good outcome and I feel fresh... I don't feel like I would
if I'd been out there all those years, treading the boards and making
a series of failed comebacks like some of my contemporaries...
JUST
OUT OF INTEREST WHAT'S YOUR RINGTONE?
Right now it's one of my endangered species mating calls...
...WHICH
I IMAGINE IS QUITE DISTINCTIVE IN A CROWDED ROOM!
Yeah, quite distinctive. I mean bird calls are designed by nature to
emanate from small objects and travel large distances, but they're also
quite soothing actually... if it goes off in a restaurant you actually
get quite nice looks from people!
WHICH
KIND OF JOINS THE DOTS FROM THE EARLY NINETIES TO TODAY AND NOW YOU'RE
ON TOUR AGAIN...
Yes, I've been on tour since the beginning of April and I'm touring
all the way through May and winding up in the UK in June at the Wireless
Festival, and we've also put in a warm-up show at the Scala in Kings
Cross just before that...
IT
SEEMS LIKE A BIT OF STRANGE SCENARIO FOR YOU BECAUSE UNLIKE ALMOST EVERY
ARTIST ON TOUR YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY PROMOTING ANYTHING?
Yeah, I mean I did it because I wanted to do it! I've been away for
quite a while and I had a kind of yearning you know? But I was busy
with my tech business stuff and it's only really now that I've been
able to take myself away from it to the point where I can get it all
back in shape so I could go back on tour.
AND
NOW YOU'RE BACK ON THE ROAD, IS IT EVERYTHING YOU REMEMBERED IT BEING?
It's actually better in many ways because I know who my audience is...
I mean back then - because of the commercial success I had - I had a
slightly schizophrenic audience, some of them had just seen 'Blinded
Me With Science' on MTV and had got into me that way and others were
interested in the more introspective aspects so it was a little bit
hard really, but what has happened in the interim is that - very much
to my amazement - people are still going onto the internet every day
and arguing about my stuff and discussing the arrangements and the technology
and the lyrics of the non commercial work, the work that appealed to
me at the time, that's what people were talking about and not the commercial
stuff, so it's very gratifying to know that any impact I made wasn't
built around the whole record company hype-machine and has actually
been able to strike a chord emotionally as well... so that's really
what I'm hoping for, to get back in touch with that and to join up those
dots...
I
SUPPOSE THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION FOR FANS THEN, IS WHETHER THERE
WILL BE NEW MATERIAL?
Yes, absolutely! I have started writing again - although I can't really
say yet how it will come out - but I felt I needed to, but first I needed
to get back in touch with my audience and everything that is going on
as well...
DO
YOU KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MUSIC?
No... (laughs)
WELL
YOU HAVEN'T MISSED MUCH!
Well I suppose I do keep up a little bit, but people are always asking
me what I'm listening to now but the things that are closest to my heart
are the things that I listened to when I was younger and I suspect that
your audience will understand that...
THAT
IS EXACTLY WHERE THE SITE COMES FROM... THE FACT THAT TODAY'S MUSIC
OFTEN CAN'T COMPARE WITH THE MUSIC WE GREW UP WITH, PARTLY I THINK BECAUSE
WE HAVE LIVES NOW AND WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO IMMERSE OURSELVES IN
MUSIC THE WAY WE COULD WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP.
Every time I talk like this I find myself turning into my parents, but
I think that we all have a golden era to go back to which just can't
go on forever...
I'VE
BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE YOU LIVE A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE PAST AND
REMEMBER THE HUGE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT YOU ALWAYS HAD ONSTAGE... WOULD
I BE RIGHT IN THINKING THAT NOW YOU CAN JUST PLUG IN YOUR LAPTOP AND
OFF YOU GO?
You would think so wouldn't you? Back then I was always surround by
loads of equipment going wrong and today I'm still surrounded by loads
of equipment going wrong! My technical set-up now is such that although
I could do it with a laptop I can actually build the tracks from scratch.
I have a headset with a camera which allows the audience to see my point
of view, and so what I'm doing is instead of just triggering sounds
from a laptop is that I am using old equipment boxes, old intelligence
and naval equipment that you can buy for next to nothing on eBay and
what I do is gut them and I retro-fit them for MIDI and use these big
dials which makes it all bigger and I think makes it a far more satisfying
voyeuristic experience for the audience.
AND
PRESUMABLY IF YOU CAN BUILD TRACKS UP LIKE THAT YOU CAN ALSO BUILD THINGS
UP IN A VERY SPONTANEOUS WAY?
Well the accidents are sometimes the must fun parts. The first couple
of nights I was terrified that everything would just fail and on about
the third gig I did that actually happened but afterwards people thought
I was doing it in purpose... they must be mad, I nearly had a heart
attack!
WHAT
SORT OF SIZE VENUES ARE YOU PLAYING OVER THERE IN THE US? I'M NOT REALLY
FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THOSE VENUES...
Well, they vary from large clubs to small theatres, so 800 - 1500 people
or so and that's alright with me. I could probably have gone a slightly
different route and gone on the eighties-revival circuit - I have certainly
been invited onto several of those package tours - but without being
disingenuous I want there to be a whole new chapter to my career, there's
now a whole generation of music fans who have barely heard of me from
back them but who I can hopefully get through to now.
Equally,
with all the hype-machinery around the music industry these days I'm
happy that there's now an option to actually just build on this very
personal relationship that you can have via the internet, you know?
Via the forums and the blogs and everything. Now I know the name and
the address of everyone who buys one of my products and I know what
they like about it, and it's also interesting - I can put a song up
on iTunes tonight and by the morning I've got a bunch of comments about
it so next week, if I want to change the lyrics or something, I can
just put another version up. I might have a spike in sales because I'm
on tour and then it might be quiet until Christmas where there's another
spike but that just doesn't matter because there's not the 'sell-by
date' that you used to have...
DOES
ALL THIS MEAN THAT WITH YOUR NEW MATERIAL YOU WILL BE RELEASING IT VIA
ROUTE OTHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL RECORD-COMPANY / MUSIC BUSINESS MODEL?
In the past it was stressful to me that I had to... with each release
in the past it had to define who Thomas Dolby was at that point in time,
and then I had to take that and get it approved by a string of executives
and they would slot it into their busy release schedule. Then if it
didn't catch fire within three or four weeks it was basically back to
the drawing board. Now I can decide, for example, to do a whole album
of quiet introspective stuff and put it out on a CD which in the mainstream
can be perceived as my new album and the definition of what Thomas Dolby
is at that point in time, but at the same time I can be doing little
pieces for films and TV and commercials and also have my name on those,
and they can also be available, on the internet, as downloads, as one-off
EPs or whatever, and there doesn't have to be this kind of dilemma over
which aspects of an artist to push. I'm really looking forward to this
new era where there is just an array of options for the way in which
you can go about your work...
WHILE
YOU WERE PREPARING FOR THIS TOUR THERE MUST HAVE BEEN POINTS WHERE YOU
WERE FORCED TO ASSESS YOUR CATALOGUE AS A WHOLE, IN PLANNING THE SETLIST
AND EVERYTHING... HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT ALL NOW?
I'm very proud of it. There's very little that I did that I'm not proud
of... a few choices production-wise that if I could do over I would
do differently perhaps. As an example I did a version of 'Airwaves'
that was only available on a cassette tape called 'From Brussels With
Love' which is very rare and hard to find, and I actually think that
it's a superior version to the one that was put on the album, which
was perhaps a little bit over-produced. So I do have a few pangs of
regret like that, but playing a song like that live today gives me the
opportunity to put the record straight - I'm trying to stay true to
the original but at the same time allowing myself to be influenced by
what I have heard in the interim and by advances in technology.
What
has been very interesting on this tour is that I've had people come
up to me after the shows and say 'oh I really like the new ones', because
I'm not playing any new ones! But they didn't hear the original album
they came off and they just assumed it was a brand new song, and that
is a rather nice tribute. I think that live either the songs stand the
test of time or the modern treatment that I have given them makes them
sound contemporary...
I
HAVE TO CONFESS THAT WAS A SLIGHTLY LEADING QUESTION TO GET YOU ONTO
THE SUBJECT OF BACK CATALOGUE... MOST OF THE QUESTIONS IN THIS INTERVIEW
WERE ACTUALLY SENT IN BY FANS AND THE SINGLE MOST ASKED QUESTION WAS
TO DO WITH PLANS FOR YOUR CATALOGUE...
Yes, there is a plan afoot to release a DVD package that EMI are looking
at. What I'm hoping to do is get some new material from the tour which
I can add to that package and get some fresh stuff on there as well.
I don't think it will be a whole remixing into 5.1 exercise, but as
it's a DVD package you may as well put everything on so it will include
old remixes and b-sides and everything.
WHAT'S
NEXT FOR YOU?
I'm going to do this tour and I'm really looking forward to coming to
the UK - I actually told my agent that I didn't want to play in the
UK until I had new material but then the Depeche Mode Hyde Park gig
came up and I usually come to the UK about that time of year anyway
- I still have a house in Suffolk and when the kids get off school we
usually get over - and I liked the idea of a nice day in the park in
London with Depeche Mode who are a band I admire very much... it seemed
like a fun thing to do, but I don't imagine I will be coming back for
a full-scale tour in the UK until I have some new product in the market.
So
that's the next thing really; finish this tour and then get my head
down and start recording some new songs. I've been writing a bit, I've
got a piece in the movie 'Mission Impossible 3' which comes out next
week and I've been co-writing with the guy who directed that movie,
JJ Abrahams, who is an old friend - he also created Lost and Alias...
I'm
taking video out on this tour and hopefully will be able to generate
some live footage that I may be able to release independently or it
may appear on the EMI DVD, and then it's all about luck and wherever
the wind takes me!
THERE
IS A RUMOUR THAT YOU ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN AN ANNIVERSARY EDITION OF
PREFAB SPROUT'S 'STEVE MCQUEEN' ALBUM (WHICH DOLBY ORIGINALLY PRODUCED)
POSSIBLY REMAKING IT AS AN ACOUSTIC ALBUM...
Well that's not completely correct, but there is life in the Prefab
camp and they do want to involve me in their future efforts, but I don't
know yet what form that will take!
MAY
2006
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