DO
YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE KIND OF PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT
HAVE ABOUT YOU?
Sometimes I do wish I was that fly on the wall and I could hear what
people were saying... but that would bring a plethora of things, there
would be good and there would be bad... people can have a preconceived
idea of what you're about though you know? But I think - due to a song
called 'Love Is All Around' which was a fantastic song for me and for
Wet Wet Wet - that people might just think 'that was the guy who did
my head in with that song back in the summer of '94!' but I would like
to think they might also say I'm a good singer...
THE
REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE I HAVE LISTENED TO YOUR NEW
ALBUM AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL BE TRULY AMAZED BY IT, BUT I WOULD
NEVER HAVE GUESSED IT WAS BY YOU... IT SOUNDS NOTHING LIKE I THINK YOU
SOUND IF THAT MAKES SENSE?
I do understand, I understand exactly what you are saying because this
album is all about the voice, it's not about the vocal aerobics or the
versatility of it, it's a very organic sounding record and it's a very...
there's a lot of depth to this work, which is not to say that my previous
work has lacked that, but it doesn't resonate in the same way with me.
This is an album that has taken me forty-one years to make, it's not
just interpreting the songs but it's also understanding them...
FOR
WHAT IT'S WORTH THIS RECORD SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN MADE
BY SOMEONE MUCH OLDER... A MUCH OLDER BLACK SINGER IN FACT!
That's alright with me! I think that the music that inspires me and
the way that I feel inside, that's the way it comes out you know? You
hear a lot of records that try to be a kind of pastiche of something,
they just try to sound like something else... for me, all the musicians
who are playing on the record have been hand-picked by me for the quality
of the playing they bring to the table, so there's a lot of thought
process gone into it. I could have hired other musicians no problem,
but I wouldn't have got the same gravitas of playing. Bringing this
set of people together to play on 'Moonlight Over Memphis', people who
haven't played together for a long time, that in itself was magical
and all I had to do was add some fried chicken and we were covered,
I was onto a winner!
AND
THIS SET OF MUSICIANS IS JUST AN INCREDIBLE LINE-UP ISN'T IT? IT'S LIKE
YOU'VE GONE THROUGH YOUR RECORD COLLECTION AND JUST PICKED ALL YOUR
FAVOURITE PLAYERS AND BROUGHT THEM ALL TOGETHER...
Absolutely! I knew that if I went to my record company - or to any record
company for that matter - and said I want to make this record with Willie
Mitchell, and every musician on it will be between sixty and eighty
years old, they're just going to say no way, but instead it was me making
a decision to self-finance the record, to source it and to put it together.
But there's a way these guys play and I knew that if I could get that
onto my record then that would be good for me... the record doesn't
have to be a hit, to be successful because I'm already reaping the benefits...
every day I was going to my work with an even bigger smile on my face!
SO
IS THERE NO PRESSURE FOR THE RECORD TO BE COMMERCIALLY SUCCESSFUL FOR
YOU?
Well I don't think anyone makes a record in the hope that it only sells
two copies! I've made this album and now I want to get out there and
talk about it to as many people as possible, but this is not an easy
album and it involves commitment, from the people who made it to the
people who listen to it... people will need to spend a bit of time with
me through their music system and that in itself brings some weight
because it's not just about instant accessibility.
But
at the end of the day it's not about how many units you sell, for me
I'm already ahead of the game because I got to make a record in Memphis
with my heroes and anything else that stems for it is a bonus!
DO
YOU THINK THE ALBUM WILL SURPRISE PEOPLE?
Well I hope that when people hear it they can still hear Marti in there
but I think it will change people's perceptions because of the integrity
and the nature of the album and the gravitas of what it is and I think
some of that will rub off on me. I just hope that people can say that
it's just another string to my bow.
IT
DOES SOUND LIKE AN ALBUM WHERE EVERYONE WAS ENJOYING THEMSELVES DURING
THE MAKING OF IT... THERE'S A FREEDOM TO IT...
And that was important all the way through the process, and you know,
my name is on the album; it's a Marti Pellow record but the musicians
and the producer - Willie Mitchell - co-produced this album with me
and there's a sense of family to it and that resonates when you hear
the music. It was an environment that I basked in.... it's just me and
these people making music in its rawest form and it was amazing.
GIVEN
YOUR POSITION AS THE KID IN THE CANDY SHOP AS IT WERE, WAS IT DIFFICULT
TO STOP? TO REACH THE POINT WHERE YOU HAD TO SAY OK THIS IS IT, IT'S
DONE?
Well I think there's nothing better than the feeling of putting an album
to bed... the most frustrating thing for me is that when I write these
songs I hear them in a funny order... I hear the arrangements, I hear
what the strings are going to do, I hear what the horn parts are going
to do and I have to walk about with that in my head until I can get
it out and get it onto tape.
SO
THAT PROCESS OF ACTUALLY MAKING IT REAL IS THE KEY THING?
Yes, it's all about that because it's all running about in my head...
it's about hearing it in it's finished form and then moving on and getting
out there and talking about it, playing it to people to inspire them
and to be inspired, and then I know there's going to be another record...
WHEN
IT COMES TO THE NEXT RECORD WON'T YOU JUST LOOK BACK AT THIS ONE AND
JUST GO 'HOW AM I GOING TO BEAT THAT?'
I think that's no bad thing, I think what you've got to do it to be
always sharpening your pencil, to not be afraid to go the whole hog
and to go the whole way with a song... I think I've always got to say
that there's better to come!
WHEN
I WAS PREPARING FOR THIS INTERVIEW I HAD TO CALL THE PR COMPANY TO CHECK
WHO WROTE ALL THE SONGS ON THE RECORD BECAUSE I'M NOT MUCH OF A SOUL
MAN AND SOME OF THESE SONGS SOUND LIKE CLASSIC SOUL LIKE SAM COOKE OR
MARVIN GAYE... BUT YOU WROTE THEM ALL!
This is what can become frightening because you don't want to sound
like a pastiche of something else, but at the same time these songs
should sound like those guys because those are the guys who started
it... and you mentioned Sam Cooke there and there's a few guys on this
record who played on those Sam Cooke albums, and on Otis Redding records,
and the people doing backing vocals did Elvis Presley's 'In The Ghetto'
and Al Greene's 'Stay Together' which is just incredible...
DID
YOU EVER HAVE THOSE MOMENTS IN THE STUDIO WHERE YOU JUST LOOKED AROUND
AND WENT 'WOW... HOW DID THIS HAPPEN TO ME?'
Oh yeah, and it was a very humbling experience because music is obviously
about the power of the collective so I hope that some of that power
has come out on the record, but to have conversations with these guys,
who I'm such a fan of... you know if I meet Eric Clapton or Elton John
or Peter Gabriel I'm just 'Oh... wait a minute, what's going on?' and
that essential enthusiasm, that almost bug-eyed enthusiasm is what I
hope I never lose for what I'm doing because I'm a such a fan of music
and a fan of these people...
COULD
THIS ALBUM HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT WILLIE MITCHELL PRODUCING? WITHOUT
THIS STELLAR CAST OF MUSICIANS?
No. Absolutely not, because the people who came and worked on this project...
it was like Stax reunited and I was the catalyst for that but it couldn't
have happened without everyone else, but especially with Willie Mitchell
because first and foremost he's my friend.
AND
TALKING OF FRIENDS... LET'S TALK ABOUT CHRIS DIFFORD...
That bag of bones!
I
HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT HE'S YOUR BEST MATE, AS WELL AS YOUR
CO-WRITER...
Aparently so! Seriously though, Chris Difford is a fantastic wordsmith,
a great songwriter and a very established artist in his own right, so
for me - when I embarked on a solo career - I will occasionally write
lyrics but when I've got a friend like Chris Difford who's such a fantastic
lyricist then I'm going to go to him every time!
The
good thing about Chris is that I can just phone him and say i want to
write a song about blah blah blah and my strengths lay in arranging,
in melody, in the production side and I bask in that but Chris doesn't
always write for the music, sometimes he never does... so he sends it
to me and I just mold it in and that's a great way of working.
AND
YOUR'RE TOURING 'MOONLIGHT OVER MEMPHIS' THIS YEAR AREN'T YOU, AND CHRIS
IS GOING TO BE THERE FOR THAT?
Oh it's just an excuse so we can hang out together... I've not seen
him much this year and it is a great chance for us to hang out!
AND
WHAT SORT OF SHOW ARE YOU DOING?
Well I'll have a few musicians with me and it'll be kind of along the
lines of what makes a song tick... not a masterclass or anything like
that but these are relatively small venues, big enough for me but quite
intimate...
I
hope that people will walk away at the end of the night and say that
the music was great, but I also want them to be saying 'that was a great
bit with Marti telling us about such and such', sending people away
with something new, something they didn't know before they arrived...
AND
PRESUMABLY YOU'LL BE PLAYING SONGS FROM THROUGHOUT YOUR CAREER, WET
WET WET SONGS AND EVERYTHING?
You'd better believe it! People come and see you for those songs and
there's many different ways to play a song but if people want to hear
'Love Is All Around' then they're going to hear 'Love is Alll Around',
if they want to hear 'Goodnight Girl' by the Wets then they're going
to hear 'Goodnight Girl'... these are the songs that made me what I
am so I'll play them all, Wet Wet Wet songs, cover songs, songs from
my solo career but it's all going to be quite loose... an 'if you can
hum it I'll play it' kind of thing!
PEOPLE
REALLY SEEM TO BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE TOUR, AND TO THE ALBUM, AND
I'VE BEEN STRUCK BY THE LOYALTY OF YOUR FANS, JUST FROM CHECKING OUT
ALL THE SITES ONLINE AND EVERYTHING...
You know I am really so blessed to have the kind of fanbase who allow
me to go off and do certain things, whether it's a solo career or treading
the boards on Broadway, just being there for me and supporting me. And
they take on board the kind of challenges I have in my life and that's
the kind of fanbase you dream of... it would be so easy for them to
just decide 'that's the way I like Marti to be, this is what I like
him to do' and then I go and do something else, move the goal posts,
and they're gone... but my fans are very supportive.
IT'S
BEEN A VERY VARIED CAREER SO FAR HASN'T IT? THERE'S BEEN ALL SORTS OF
TWISTS AND TURNS AND HIGHS AND LOWS... IS THERE A BOOK IN THERE? AN
AUTOBIOGRAPHY?
Well, only really when I have a few more chapters! I do believe there's
a book in there and if I decide to play that card then I want to have
a few more anecdotes in it yet... I love biographies, I think they're
amazing - my favourite is 'The Moon's A Balloon' by David Niven - but
I don't think I'm ready for all that, because for me that's for stars,
you know Hollywood stars, but I think I've got a story to tell...
I
WOULD SAY YOU DEFINTELY HAVE A STORY TO TELL - YOU'VE DONE SOME VERY
DIFFERENT THINGS AND YOU'VE EXPERIENCED SOME REAL SUCCESSES AND SOME
VERY DRAMATIC AND PUBLIC LOWS...
Aye... a lot of shit has happened to me, let's not beat about the bush!
WHAT
ELSE IS COMING UP FOR YOU AFTER THE TOUR? YOU DID 'CHICAGO' IN THE WEST
END FOR A WHILE DIDN'T YOU, WILL YOU DO MORE IN THAT DIRECTION?
I hope to do more of that but at the moment it's all about this record,
but next year I'll be releasing an album with Wet Wet Wet and we've
been writing some new songs for that... it's our two hundredth anniversary
or something!
SEPTEMBER
2006
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